Thursday, June 18, 2015

Where Has the Cohesion of the Catholic Church Gone.

So will someone anyone explain to me, exactly, how I am supposed to remain a Catholic and yet not believe a word that comes out of Rome, the Magisterium, or even the Pope?

No really, I want to know.

Because I see that happening a lot.

If a Catholic is supposed to believe as true everything that the Church teaches, has taught and will ever teach (keep in mind that the full deposit of the faith is everything taught in the past, the present and the future) because we are told that the church would NEVER, COULD never lie,  and yet everywhere I turn, on almost every topic, I am told by someone or other that this Pope was wrong, or that Cardinal is lying, or obey this encyclical but not that one.  If one cannot trust what Rome teaches, and apparently according to some, one can't, how in the bloody hell does one remain Catholic?

I want to stay a Catholic, I want to trust Rome, but everywhere I turn, I am told they lied here, or there or then or  now.

Herein endeth the question


Patience said...

We are living in confusing times. When you say "everywhere I turn"; who are you talking about? Priests? Bloggers? Blogger Priests?
I see a lot out there and try to stick to what I hear from the pulpit. (disclaimer: I go to the Oratory so I think they're fairly Kosher) But it is unnerving all this questioning and backtracking. But then again; what must it have been like for people around the mid 60's and Vatican II. (I don't think my formerly devout parents ever recovered)

Puff the Magic Dragon said...

Everywhere I turn, is literally everyone I know in my social sphere.

And I don't really follow bloggers or priest's with an online presence.

I too, stick to the parish priest and the homily from the Ambo. (Our church has an actual Pulpit, but the homilist stays at the ambo.

It is well, and good to have an orthodox priest. but not everyone is so lucky. My parish is very good with that too.

John the Mad said...

I sent an email to my pastor (a wonderfully orthodox priest) with much the same anguish i see in your comments. His response was to tell me to stay close to the Sacred Heart of Jesus.

At first I thought his answer inadequate, but the more I think about it the more wisdom I see in it.

Gospel of Saint John

1 Do not let your hearts be troubled. You trust in God, trust also in me.

2 In my Father's house there are many places to live in; otherwise I would have told you. I am going now to prepare a place for you,

3 and after I have gone and prepared you a place, I shall return to take you to myself, so that you may be with me where I am.

4 You know the way to the place where I am going.

5 Thomas said, 'Lord, we do not know where you are going, so how can we know the way?'

6 Jesus said: I am the Way; I am Truth and Life. No one can come to the Father except through me.

7 If you know me, you will know my Father too. From this moment you know him and have seen him.

8 Philip said, 'Lord, show us the Father and then we shall be satisfied.' Jesus said to him,

9 'Have I been with you all this time, Philip, and you still do not know me? 'Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father, so how can you say, "Show us the Father"?

10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? What I say to you I do not speak of my own accord: it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his works.

11 You must believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe it on the evidence of these works.

12 In all truth I tell you, whoever believes in me will perform the same works as I do myself, and will perform even greater works, because I am going to the Father.

13 Whatever you ask in my name I will do, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

14 If you ask me anything in my name, I will do it.

15 If you love me you will keep my commandments.

16 I shall ask the Father, and he will give you another Paraclete to be with you for ever,

17 the Spirit of truth whom the world can never accept since it neither sees nor knows him; but you know him, because he is with you, he is in you.

18 I shall not leave you orphans; I shall come to you.


May God bless you. Ask in Jesus name for the grace of steadfastness in the Catholic faith and it will be granted unto you. Most Sacred Heart of Jesus have mercy on us. (JtM)

Puff the Magic Dragon said...

Um, I remember I was thinking how much I hated attending weddings and funerals not in my parish by unorthodox priests, and how painful it was for me, and how I did not want to endure it. And a heard in my head:

If I can endure it, so can you.

And that's when I realized that sometimes God needs us to be there for Him, because no one else is their for Him.

Scripture to keep in mind

Six things there are, which the Lord hateth, and the seventh his soul detesteth: [17] Haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, [18] A heart that deviseth wicked plots, feet that are swift to run into mischief, [19]A deceitful witness that uttereth lies, and him that soweth discord among brethren. [20] My son, keep the commandments of thy father, and forsake not the law of thy mother. ***Cf:Douay-Rheims Proverbs 6: 16-20


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